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		<title>By: Anthony L</title>
		<link>http://freebies4me.net/network/2009/12/should-f4m-realign-with-flr/comment-page-1/#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been to your site before. The more I learn, the more I keep coming back! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to your site before. The more I learn, the more I keep coming back! <img src='http://freebies4me.net/network/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pace</title>
		<link>http://freebies4me.net/network/2009/12/should-f4m-realign-with-flr/comment-page-1/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Twon - I agree, and that is why I will not pay to be listed on forums.  Most forums generate enough revenue on their own through various channels (banners, PPD type programs, running their own freebie sites, selling training ebooks, etc).  The forums do drive a lot of traffic to our sites, but its of mutual benefit so paying for a listing is counter-productive from a site owner&#039;s standpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Twon &#8211; I agree, and that is why I will not pay to be listed on forums.  Most forums generate enough revenue on their own through various channels (banners, PPD type programs, running their own freebie sites, selling training ebooks, etc).  The forums do drive a lot of traffic to our sites, but its of mutual benefit so paying for a listing is counter-productive from a site owner&#8217;s standpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: Twon</title>
		<link>http://freebies4me.net/network/2009/12/should-f4m-realign-with-flr/comment-page-1/#comment-2799</link>
		<dc:creator>Twon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, if all you owners got together and rallied against paying forums to be listed on their site, things would change.  This supposed to be FREEBIE sites.  People really are trying anything they can to make a buck off each other.  What would it do to payouts and or offer weights if you didn&#039;t have to pay anything to have a subforum (other than proove you aren&#039;t a scam)?  It&#039;s just getting less and less FUN all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, if all you owners got together and rallied against paying forums to be listed on their site, things would change.  This supposed to be FREEBIE sites.  People really are trying anything they can to make a buck off each other.  What would it do to payouts and or offer weights if you didn&#8217;t have to pay anything to have a subforum (other than proove you aren&#8217;t a scam)?  It&#8217;s just getting less and less FUN all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pace</title>
		<link>http://freebies4me.net/network/2009/12/should-f4m-realign-with-flr/comment-page-1/#comment-2590</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jb888 - I think if you stick to your convictions, usually you can&#039;t go wrong.  I think the ONLY thing steering me in this direction is the fact that Admin&#039;s role has really really been reduced.  As long as I don&#039;t have to pay anything, am not forced to conform to their one-sided business practices, and referrals start to flow again, I don&#039;t really have a problem with it.

I do respect your position though and maybe I&#039;m naive :)

@Braden - it is free to be listed in Trade Manager, and that is all I&#039;m doing right now.  If I want a subforum I have to pay, but that&#039;s pretty much the case on all forums now (except TFX and A4F).  FLR&#039;s fee is actually cheaper than Calistyle, so maybe they are really turning a leaf?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jb888 &#8211; I think if you stick to your convictions, usually you can&#8217;t go wrong.  I think the ONLY thing steering me in this direction is the fact that Admin&#8217;s role has really really been reduced.  As long as I don&#8217;t have to pay anything, am not forced to conform to their one-sided business practices, and referrals start to flow again, I don&#8217;t really have a problem with it.</p>
<p>I do respect your position though and maybe I&#8217;m naive <img src='http://freebies4me.net/network/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Braden &#8211; it is free to be listed in Trade Manager, and that is all I&#8217;m doing right now.  If I want a subforum I have to pay, but that&#8217;s pretty much the case on all forums now (except TFX and A4F).  FLR&#8217;s fee is actually cheaper than Calistyle, so maybe they are really turning a leaf?</p>
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		<title>By: jb888 (Joanna)</title>
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		<dc:creator>jb888 (Joanna)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s a coin toss, at this point, Chris.  But I still vote no.  It&#039;s no big deal to me, whatever you decide.  

If I owned F4Me, I would probably be going overboard in the wrong direction.  My site would list all the the forums where my site had a presence, and would show FLR as banned.  Guess I wouldn&#039;t make a good freebie site owner, would I?   :)

Joanna</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s a coin toss, at this point, Chris.  But I still vote no.  It&#8217;s no big deal to me, whatever you decide.  </p>
<p>If I owned F4Me, I would probably be going overboard in the wrong direction.  My site would list all the the forums where my site had a presence, and would show FLR as banned.  Guess I wouldn&#8217;t make a good freebie site owner, would I?   <img src='http://freebies4me.net/network/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Joanna</p>
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		<title>By: Braden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Braden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to say go for it if it&#039;s free. It&#039;s smart to spread yourself out. Now that I see that he is charging you, I say hell no. He&#039;s proven what he is. I can&#039;t believe that some people still don&#039;t see it. If you do choose to return there, I doubt anyone wil hold it against you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to say go for it if it&#8217;s free. It&#8217;s smart to spread yourself out. Now that I see that he is charging you, I say hell no. He&#8217;s proven what he is. I can&#8217;t believe that some people still don&#8217;t see it. If you do choose to return there, I doubt anyone wil hold it against you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys!  I hear ya loud and clear.  I will tell you why we were banned in the first place...
http://freebies4me.net/network/?p=224

I opted out of the rules FLR put in place at the time, which required me to use only their approved affiliates (which to you means less offers, lower credit weights, etc).  The other piece of it was a hefty fee to stay on board.  

The change now seems to be a more open forum, kind of like the old days.  They are still filtering out the bad sites (know scammers), but the rules seem a bit more fair.  I have nothing invested in this, all it means is that you can conduct trades on FLR.  I will not be posting any promos there (the site you are on now is the absolute best place to find out what&#039;s going on with F4M).  You can find me on a number of other forums where I have a subforum.  If things pick up at FLR, I may consider a subforum there (the terms are MUCH more favorable than they were in the past). 

Keep the great comments coming!  I love hearing your feedback :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys!  I hear ya loud and clear.  I will tell you why we were banned in the first place&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://freebies4me.net/network/?p=224" rel="nofollow">http://freebies4me.net/network/?p=224</a></p>
<p>I opted out of the rules FLR put in place at the time, which required me to use only their approved affiliates (which to you means less offers, lower credit weights, etc).  The other piece of it was a hefty fee to stay on board.  </p>
<p>The change now seems to be a more open forum, kind of like the old days.  They are still filtering out the bad sites (know scammers), but the rules seem a bit more fair.  I have nothing invested in this, all it means is that you can conduct trades on FLR.  I will not be posting any promos there (the site you are on now is the absolute best place to find out what&#8217;s going on with F4M).  You can find me on a number of other forums where I have a subforum.  If things pick up at FLR, I may consider a subforum there (the terms are MUCH more favorable than they were in the past). </p>
<p>Keep the great comments coming!  I love hearing your feedback <img src='http://freebies4me.net/network/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jaylee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaylee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a business standpoint it would probably be good to realign. I stopped trading due to unfair business on the flr. Dont know why they even banned freebies4me.
I know i was always paid by you guys promptly, one of my best sites. Thanks again and if you need help or know of a better trading forum to go on im all open ears. Thanks Chris
Jaylee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a business standpoint it would probably be good to realign. I stopped trading due to unfair business on the flr. Dont know why they even banned freebies4me.<br />
I know i was always paid by you guys promptly, one of my best sites. Thanks again and if you need help or know of a better trading forum to go on im all open ears. Thanks Chris<br />
Jaylee</p>
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		<title>By: terrilc2</title>
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		<dc:creator>terrilc2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 16:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No,  Don&#039;t  give yourself a headache, their was alot of issue going on @ flr and you should do more research.  Find out what the other traders of flr think of what&#039;s going on @ flr.  This is one of the reasons I came to freebie4me, too much politics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No,  Don&#8217;t  give yourself a headache, their was alot of issue going on @ flr and you should do more research.  Find out what the other traders of flr think of what&#8217;s going on @ flr.  This is one of the reasons I came to freebie4me, too much politics!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 15:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jb888 - I truly appreciate your comments.  Here&#039;s the deal and how it is all working with FLR
 - No charge to show up on Trade Manager
 - $100/3 months for showing up as a &quot;Listed&quot; site
 - $400/3 months for showing up as a &quot;Approved&quot; site

I am hesitant to pay in at this point because I don&#039;t see the value of a subforum. I have many subforums elsewhere and while they are great for answering questions and posting promos, I can do all of that on this site (freebies4me.net/network).  The main thing this does is allow you folks to trade my site on FLR, which I think is a huge advantage and win-win.

@Sable24x7/@Melissa thank you very much...I agree and will not allow any shenanigans

On a side note...what happened to FLR this morning?  I&#039;m getting a GoDaddy parked page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jb888 &#8211; I truly appreciate your comments.  Here&#8217;s the deal and how it is all working with FLR<br />
 &#8211; No charge to show up on Trade Manager<br />
 &#8211; $100/3 months for showing up as a &#8220;Listed&#8221; site<br />
 &#8211; $400/3 months for showing up as a &#8220;Approved&#8221; site</p>
<p>I am hesitant to pay in at this point because I don&#8217;t see the value of a subforum. I have many subforums elsewhere and while they are great for answering questions and posting promos, I can do all of that on this site (freebies4me.net/network).  The main thing this does is allow you folks to trade my site on FLR, which I think is a huge advantage and win-win.</p>
<p>@Sable24x7/@Melissa thank you very much&#8230;I agree and will not allow any shenanigans</p>
<p>On a side note&#8230;what happened to FLR this morning?  I&#8217;m getting a GoDaddy parked page.</p>
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